Now can you both talk about filming the episode "Here's
Lassie" and what horror film element that was brought
into the episode scared you the most?
James Roday: I can tell you that we got pretty lucky
with - since you've seen the episode, with the set of twins
that we found. You know, I think initially we were going
to go with sort of more traditionally and closer to what
you have in the original movie. And then they had come in
and auditioned for a different episode, and I think it was
Steve's episode and he remembered them. And he was like
you have to watch this.
And we watched the audition, and it was like, oh my gosh.
We're going to do this instead, which was better because
it allowed us to sort of put our own little spin on it.
But they were I thought pretty effectively creepy. They
were lovely ladies, and a hoot to have around, but I thought
it was pretty - I thought it was just as creepy as the little
girls in the movie quite frankly.
Dule Hill: Yes. And the little boy too. The little
boy breaking his little pinky, that little finger - that
was pretty spooky for me, especially when we're down there
in the laundry room and he comes by the window. It's like
- that was pretty spooky.
James Roday: Little kids and twins, man. You can't
go wrong with those, you know what I mean?
Dule Hill: Two of the scariest things in the world.
How much fun was it to get to work with Cary Elwes again?
Dule Hill: Well, it's always fun working with Cary
Elwes. He's such a delight to work with. He's a great guy,
brings so much fun energy to the set. And being that he
came back around for the third time, you start to really
be familiar with people. But we had a blast. I mean, it
was a wonderful experience, and if we have a chance to work
with him again, we'll look forward to that too.
James Roday: Yes, Cary's the real deal. I would
actually that's probably my favorite of the Despereaux episodes.
It was really a good time.
Dule Hill: Definitely.
and you know, you got to work with Sallah too, John Rhys
Davies. So was that intimidating for you guys at all?
James Roday: You know, that guy is bigger than life.
There wasn't even a moment to be intimidated. He - you know,
he came over and it was kind of like - I don't know. It
was like working with Santa Claus or something almost.
You know, he's got such - he's got that big voice and
that big personality and his laugh is really infectious,
and yes, it was great. And I got the added bonus of working
with (Mage Tunomic) in that episode too, who was like my
original TV crush. It was just lots of good stuff going
Dule Hill: That's something. I mean, I think people
come to our show and they enjoy, you know, just from what
they hear, that they don't really have much fun on a lot
of other shows, and everyone who comes to fight has a good
time for a week …
They enjoy being up there, and I think word has started
to spread to the - through the town that it's a fun place
to come and work, and to - you know, and to give actors
a chance to come and play something interesting and different
and have a week in Vancouver where we get a chance to laugh,
laugh a lot. And we can laugh a lot.
My favorite part of any show is a random pop culture
reference that you just sneak into a random conversation.
Do you guys come up with those as you go, or do you have
one and try to find a way to get it in there that you really
want to mention?
James Roday: I think it's a little bit of everything,
Dule Hill: Right.
James Roday: I think for one, between me and Steve
and the rest of our writing staff, it's a pretty deep well
of obscurity. And with, you know, each opportunity we get
to come back, you know, we've got a list of ones that we
haven't gotten to yet, and then in addition to that, we'll
come up with stuff in the moment based on, you know, a song
we've been singing, you know, in between takes. And we kind
of - we jam all those in as well. It's a pretty fantastic
format, our show, because it kind of lends itself to doing
just about anything you'd want and getting away with it.
Dule Hill: I know, I think, because for example,
when we did our how we got to - you know, the little intimate
thing, I was in my trailer one day, you know, and somebody
emailed me or I'd seen it somewhere like on the Web, you
know, Ed Lover's "come on, son," and I was just
I think maybe on Facebook I think I saw it, and I was
just rolling in my trailer and I finally said, "Oh,
James, you got to come see this," or I emailed it to
him. And then we - he - it made him die laughing, and by
chance we were filming the episode that (Bruce Davis) did,
I think a season ago. And we just started dropping it in
there, and it made it to the air.
And then of course this year, now, we were running with
the "Come on, son," and we were having dinner
one day for (Andy Berman)'s episode. You know, why don't
we have (Ed Lover) come out and do "Come on, son."
And it just happened.
In the Indiana Jones episode, Shawn has to deal with
mortality. So my question is, what do you imagine that would
be the most likely way that Shawn and Gus kick the bucket?
James Roday: Shawn has joked on several occasions
that Gus will somehow inadvertently be the cause of his
own death. I think Steve's thrown that joke in like two
or three times over the years, like Gus is going to accidentally
walk into traffic or something and have no one to blame
but himself. I don't know, I - it's a good question. I mean,
I think these - I don't know if these guys have given a
lot of thought to mortality. They're kind of stuck in the
Dule Hill: In denial. In the past, and in denial.
James Roday: ...and clinging to the idea of not
growing up, so I think Shawn is probably convinced that
he'll never die, and I think, you know, Gus probably just
doesn't like thinking about it.
Dule Hill: Right. He doesn't want to be putting
any choice to talking about that.
James Roday: Exactly.
My question is, you guys talked a little bit last Fall
before this season debuted about a clue-themed episode.
Is there any word on that project?
James Roday: That I can say with a reasonable degree
of confidence is still happening. The reason that we were
unable to do it in season six was sort of a perfect storm
of scheduling issues with some of the pieces of talent that
I think we could all agree you have to have on board if
you're going to do a clue episode.
So we basically just put a pin in it and pushed it to
season seven, if there was going to be a season seven, and
now that there is one, I can say here with confidence, barring
some unforeseen glitch, you're going to get your clue episode
So obviously the show's hysterical, and I don't want
to do Shawn and Gus a disservice by saying they're growing
up, but there are still some, you know, underlying more
serious moments, like in the Indiana Jones episode where
Shawn was like, "Oh my God, Gus is going to die,"
or even the emergency ring situation. So how would you characterize
what's going on with these two at this point in their lives?
And are we going to see more of these sort of realizations
come upon them?
Dule Hill: I think you have to. I mean, I think,
you know, we've been on the air for six years, going into
our seventh. And you know, it would be false for us not
to. I mean, the fact is they are trying to hold onto the
past and to be never growing up, but the fact is they are
And as you see, you know, with Shawn, you know, and getting
more serious with Juliet, and even Gus trying to find his
own significant other and things like that, I think that's
a - the general, or - that's going to be the arc of the
characters. Otherwise I think it'd just be getting boring
if we kept doing the same exact thing as season one.