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PCM got the chance to speak to co-lead investigators Barry Fitzgerald and Kris Williams from Syfy's Ghost Hunters International. The show, which is a spin-off of the Ghost Hunters series, returns with Season three next week on Wednesday, July 13.

Ghost Hunters International features a squad of paranormal investigators who use their principles of scientific techniques, to explore some of the most legendary haunted spots around the world. Each week the team travels to the far corners of the globe, searching for answers to bizarre supernatural mysteries.

For its first round of investigations, the International crew took on some of Europe's most haunted locales, including Chillingham Castle in England and the forgotten underground city of Mary King's Close in Scotland. The new episodes will take the team to countries such as Peru, Singapore, Sweden, the Philippines and many others.

Check out the conversation below along with the trailer for season three of this ghoulish series:


In regards to the first two episodes that are held in Trinidad, what did you find the biggest challenge you had with investigating in that location?

Kris Williams: Just in some locations there were huge - I know Barry and I - the location Chacachacare was very overgrown, thick, thick jungles. And I know it's not something we usually have a lot of experience with. I don't know. What would you say?

Barry Fitzgerald: Well I certainly agree with you, Kris. Chacachacare certainly was something which was really new for us and really getting into some of that adventure side of ghost investigating. And the very fact that we were pushing ourselves to the limits in Trinidad was great for us to get out of that norm and really extend ourselves.

And certainly for me, Trinidad will always be remembered by the huge centipedes that hiss at you. And just - Joe Chin and Scott Tepperman had it the hardest. And of course, I can't forget the roads either. They were petrifying.

Where is the one place that you haven't investigated yet for each of you that you most want to?

Kris Williams: I've always wanted to investigate the Catacombs in France. But I think you guys have already done that before I came on, right, like a section of it?

Barry Fitzgerald: That's right, that's right, yes. For me I would have to say it would be the Titanic, right at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Now can you both talk about Trinidad and the supernatural elements there as compared to North America or even Europe?

Kris Williams: You know, it's funny because Barry and I have both been running into places where the belief systems are just different. And it's funny because it's been challenging us in a lot of ways, because there's certain that we tackle things that goes against the local culture and the local beliefs.

And I know the big thing in Trinidad was the story of the Soucouyant which appears as a fireball. And they say that, basically, she'll appear as an old woman and peel her skin away and turn into this fireball. And the locals are afraid of this thing. It's something that they scare their kids with so they stay out of the jungle.

But it's just really interesting to see the differences and hear the differences in the cultures in all the different countries you go to. It's different because when I was in the states, you know, you're familiar with what people believe here. But once you start going outside of that and you get to see the world a little bit, it's interesting to see our differences. You learn - I feel I'm learning a lot more with the international show.

Barry Fitzgerald: The differences, as Kris has pointed out, are varied. And we find ourselves both bringing solutions to some of those belief systems and alternatives. And at other times we're facing a learning curve as well from our perspective which takes us outside of our comfort zone. And sometimes we're faced with things that we've never experienced before.

England, for example, we were told about this story that just seemed a way out there. And, you know, for us to film that and see it for ourselves was quite a remarkable experience.
But Trinidad, of course, has its own belief systems, very much similar to other island belief systems. But both Trinidad and Tobago, and of course the other islands, are steeped in myth and superstition. And it's a very vibrant place. And that vibrancy filters through into its legends and myths. And it was really a remarkable experience for us all.

Kris Williams: It's funny, too, because a lot of times, like, the, you know, different belief systems are kind of putting the group in an interesting spot, because we're - you know, obviously there's six of us. We're all coming at it from different angles too. But then we're dealing with the local culture. And, you know, there's been a couple times we all are battling out - battling it out in a way, because it's so different than anything we're used to dealing with. I don't know. It's been fun. I think the last few cases we've done have really made us all kind of think of think outside the box.

Kris, can you talk about what you felt on the leg in the dark in Trinidad and what you thought it was?

Kris Williams: What I felt on my leg in Trinidad, the Lopinot. I'm trying to think. Yes, I honestly, I have no clue. I mean there's a few things that happened in Trinidad that I can't explain. I know I have seen this shadow, this human figure. I also got touched. I know Barry had things a few things happen to him that he couldn't explain. You know, it's just one of those cases where, you know, we have personal experiences. But then, you know, we also have some stuff to back it up. So it was just - it was just a weird case all around.

I think all of us were kind of either - I don't even know how to describe it honestly, like we're all split. For a while there it was three on one side and three on the other. And we're kind of battling it out over evidence. We're battling it out over personal experience. And then, it's just - I enjoy cases like that because we're all kind of picking at each other. We're all working together to figure it out. It's not like just Barry and I, which is nice.

But I have no idea what the hell touched me. I have no idea what the hell I've seen at the location. I'm still trying to figure it out because everything in me has always been a skeptic. And I always question, even when I know I couldn't explain it when I was there. But I have no idea. I mean, I'm still confused by it.

Can you tell us Barry, do you have any new investigative techniques or technologies that you're going to introduce this season?

Barry Fitzgerald: I have been working with (Paul) on development within the camera technology. We do want to see more. We want that - we don't want that technology to become stagnant. And so it's continually developing. We do have the fourth generation camera, a low light full spectrum camera which is coming out now. And it has been proving very critical for us on the investigations, especially in Castle Rising in England. There's going to be some staggering evidence coming from over there.

Can you tell us about any paranormal experiences you may have encountered in the last few years that didn't make the show?

Barry Fitzgerald: I know for - I know for me, and Joe Chin was part of this as well, that when investigating a French chateau down in the Bordeaux region. The - whatever was in the chateau actually followed the cast back to the hotel and we were all woken up at the same time in the morning.

I know that I had woken up and there was a guy standing inside my room. I jumped up to confront him and he just stepped back in the darkness and was gone. It was only when we discussed this the next day that we discovered what was actually going on. But that was a fantastic case. I loved it.

Besides Trinidad and Argentina, where else are you going to take us this summer? And what are some of the reports that you investigated?

Barry Fitzgerald: I'd say after Trinidad and Argentina we actually head up to England, to Castle Rising where we weren't quite sure going into it whether the client was actually haunting the place, or sorry, whether the client was being haunted or whether the castle itself was being haunted, and by some unusual claims of activity. And then we headed across to Isle of Man to the Rushen Castle. It was the last place that a witch was burned in the Isle of Man.

And then we went across to Ireland, one of Kris's favorite places, Spike Island. It was a prison. Its uses have changed over many years. But this is also the last place - the last port of call for the great Titanic before she set sail across the Atlantic. We also went to Roe Valley in Northern Ireland. It was a former workhouse. And some really weird, unusual claims were made to us there, down into New Zealand, Riccarton Racecourse Hotel and scene of a very dastardly murder. And so in that particular episode we turned into detectives more so than paranormal hunters. Napier Prison, of course there, down there in New Zealand as well. And American Samoa, where invested a former girl school which is now being swallowed up by the jungle.

What do you think are the differences between Ghost Hunters International and Ghost Hunters?

Kris Williams: Oh, there are a lot. You know it's - I spent a little over three years on Ghost Hunters. And you know, you just grew up knowing US history. Hopefully most people do. You're very aware of the Revolutionary War and the Civil War and, you know, the Trail of Tears, and just all the big events that we had back here in the states that started our country off.

And you get used to the plains, and you're pretty familiar with the cultural beliefs and the religions that are here. For me, international has been quite a change because, you know, here it's like I know the language. I'm used the money. I'm used to the food. I'm used to all this stuff. But then when you go over seas, you're dealing with different foods, different money, different languages, different cultures, different belief system. So all around it's a challenge. It's a good challenge, because I'm seeing things, experiencing new things. But it's not just the locations that we're up against once we leave the states.

The history alone I've absolutely loved, getting to go to these different countries, you know, getting a look at their cultural differences, getting an idea what their history was all about. And some of these places we've gone to are places that you read about in history books here in the states I never imagined every walking into. So it's very surreal in a lot of ways. I enjoy it. I really enjoy the difference in the two shows. But, yes, international is its own thing. It's completely different from anything I've experienced in the states.

With the original series, Kris, you used to answer the phone and talk to regular folks. I'm wondering how is the criteria for choosing locations for international and do you miss getting that phone call from, for example, a worried mom?

Kris Williams: (Susie) is our case manager. So she's usually setting up the cases. But they kind of come in from all over the place. We have either our clients contacting (Susie), or, you know, there's places we've always wanted to go so we'll look into them, or places that the production company's heard of, or people contacting them directly. So it's kind of coming from all over.

And as far as missing it, I enjoy a new challenge, you know. I've done that for three years. I felt that I learned everything I could in that spot. And now I've gotten the chance to get moved over and promoted. And it's been nice because when I started with TAPS, you know, I had the history and research background, but I didn't really have a background in the paranormal, even though it was something that always interested me. So it's nice to be able to come into another team with actual experience behind me. I feel like I have more to offer this time around.

And it's been fun being paired up with Barry, because, one, we pick on each other a lot, which is fun. You know, he just looks at things completely different than (Amy) did. (Amy) and I were alike in a lot of ways. But I find that with Barry and I, we're constantly challenging each other, and sometimes it's even a bit of a tennis match because our - the angles that we both take our complete opposites.

And it's fun because I'm being forced to look at things a little differently. I'm forced to think about things a little differently. And I enjoy the challenge. I mean, I've told a few people - they're like, oh, I miss you on GH with (Amy). Life's all about moving forward and learning new things. And I felt I really enjoyed Ghost Hunters. I learned everything I know now there. And I just feel that I'm now being able to bring it somewhere else and help out my new team. So I enjoy it.

Barry Fitzgerald: First, Joe, it's about as well as a challenges as Kris has pointed out with different cultures, belief systems, and everything else, you also have the challenges of bureaucracy. And those themselves can play a big part within GHI. And getting into specific countries, the paper work that you need, and sometimes your equipment being seized and having to work through to get those things lifted can really affect scheduling and our home times. Because, you know, a lot of the times we're away from our families quite a bit.
And whenever we get equipment seized and things like that, then of course, then our stay is extended, and so we can get that shoot done.

But GHI has its challenges, it really does. But from those challenges we grow. And that's an important thing. As an entire team, we grew immensely. And I absolutely adore working with Kris and her approach is great. And I know that - I know that we come at things from totally different angles. But from that particular point, we find our middle ground. And it works very, very well.

Could you share with us some of the essential items that you pack with you in your travel bag when you head out for a trip?

Kris Williams: I pack my iPod, yes, iPod for sanity. I am a music person. I will not lie. It is hard. International travel is hard. It's harder than anything I've dealt with in the States.Like he said, different foods. You know, your body is thrown off within your diet. Your body is thrown off with time zone changes. The language barrier, it can be difficult. Not being able to call home because, you know, everybody's in bed while you're just waking up. It's difficult in a lot of ways.

It's funny because after a while you start knowing your coworkers better than you do your family. Like, Barry I see as my brother. You know? (Susie), she's like another little sister. And we, luckily, all get along really well. You know, there's just - it's a good thing because there's really no going home at the end of the day. There's no restart or refresh button.

And I don't know, I just enjoy everybody but they - the big thing with the iPod for me is that when I do get that chance to kind of be by myself on the - in my room, it's just more of a chill out because you kind of - you're so go, go, go, go, go all the time, you kind of forget how to relax and that's usually the one way I'm able to do that, so music is a huge thing.

Barry Fitzgerald: And for me, I am packing my snorkel and fins and sunscreen. Being Irish of course, we don't travel too well without sunscreen.

What has been the most life-threatening paranormal encounter you've experienced?

Barry Fitzgerald: The biggest one for me, would have been off the show. And it nearly drowned me in Slovakia - or sorry, not Slovakia, in Snagov in Romania, just a little Transylvania. And whatever that was that was in the water, it's not good. And that was the most challenging thing I have come up against to date.

Kris Williams: Honestly I haven't run into anything paranormal yet that's been, you know, that physical with me. I think that's why (I'm still) kind of ballsy with the provoking. Once I learn my lesson I might reconsider it.

But as far as life-threatening, a lot of times it's just the places we're in. I mean, we've been in old, empty buildings with open elevator shafts or just floors that you could fall through. We had one of our camera guys almost go through the floor in American Samoa. We were told that the floor was safe, the cement was safe and his foot went through. So you just really never know what you're going to run into, whether it's the building falling apart, a cliff that you didn't know was there.

Like the island we went to, Spike Island in Ireland, they kept having to warn us about this wall. It just looked like flat ground. But if you went so far out there is a 40-foot drop. And we're running around in the dark with this stuff. So it's just, you always have to be very aware. And when things do happen you have to really keep calm because you can't just go running off in any direction because you could seriously get hurt or killed if you're not smart about it.

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